The Disks of Baian-Kara-Ula (2)

During an expedition to the hardly accessible mountain range of Baian-Kara-Ula which lies on the borderland between Tibet and China, the Chinese archeologist Chi Pu Tei discovered several cave burial sites which contained strange, only about 4 feet 4 inches tall skeletons, whose heads were oversized in relation to their otherwise slender frame.

In each of the total of 716 graves he found a stonedisk with a diameter of about 1 foot and a thickness of a third of an inch. These disks were engraved with inscriptions of so far unknown origin.

 

Chi Pu Tei published his findings stating that the skeletons were those of mountain gorillas and that the disks were added by later cultures, which lead to him being ridiculed by the Chinese archeologist community.

 

 

1947: Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans’ expedition

Shortly after World War II the polish professor Lolladoff showed a strange stonedisk to the English scientist Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans.

 

Lolladoff claims to have bought the disk in Mussorie (Northern India) and that it is supposed to be from a mysterious people called the "Dzopa" who had used it for religious rituals.

This plate called 'The Lolladoff plate' is a 12,000 year old stone dish found in Nepal.

It clearly shows a disk shaped UFO (top of pic, hard to see from the angle of the plate however).

There is also a figure on the disc looking remarkably similar to a Grey alien.

Notice the spiral galaxy shape as well, with the alien inside it and the ufo at the beginning of it.

Galaxies come in spiral shapes and throughout India,

Egypt and Peru and other ancient sites the spiral shape is very often seen.

This galaxy spiral is probably there to tell us that they flew here from another galaxy,

buy more probably the spiral was their symbol signifying their knowledge of the universe,

as the spiral is the most widely recognizable shape in the universe and in it's creation.

The spiral shape also signifies energy.

The spiral is a geometric shape found in many places throughout nature,

in many ancient cultures it is portrayed and given great meaning.

Two of the most popular spiral shapes however not always circular or curved in shape

are the Fibonacci spiral and Golden spiral.

The spiral is also well represented through sacred geometry.

The spiral holds many mysteries, and its shape is universal,

its constant depiction in ancient texts, pictures, and symbology is obviously of great importance.

In 1947 the Dr. Robin-Evans made for the "mysterious land of the Dzopa", travelling through Lhasa (Tibet) where he was granted an audience with the 14^th Dalai Lama.

 

On the way to the very inaccessible region to the northeast of the Himalaya, the English scientist was abandoned by his Tibetan carriers - they were terribly afraid of Baian-Kara-Ula - and only with tremendous effort did he manage to reach his destination.

Image from Evan's book "Sungods in Exile", published four years after he died.

After having won the faith of the locals, Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans was assigned a language-teacher in order to introduce him to the basics of the Dzopa-language and so he learned from Lurgan-La, religious guardian of the Dzopa, the history of the Dzopa.

 

Lurgan-La pointed out that they (Dzopa) originally came from a planet in the Sirius-system. There had been - about 20.000 years ago and again in the year 1014 - two exploration missions to earth. In 1014 the crash took place that lead to the accidents survivors being unable to leave earth again.

Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans died in 1974. The above report was released in 1978.

• The Dzopa are often referred to as the Dropa. This is due to the fact that the sound of the second consonant is in between a ’Z’ and an ’R’.
• As Tibet wasn’t under the rule of China in 1947, Dr. Robin-Evans trip could easily be arranged.
• It is well possible that Dr. Robin-Evans was received by a "lineholder" instead of the Dalai Lama directly, a fact which could be used to verify the correctness of Dr. Robin-Evans’ report.
• Dr. Robin-Evans’ report dates the crash to the year 1014, all other sources however talk of a crash 12.000 years ago. This discrepancy remains unexplained so far.
• According to Lurgan-La’s history the Dzopa would appear to be direct descendants of space travelling "aliens"

 

 

1968: W. Saitsew & Prof. Tsum Um Nui

In 1968 the Russian scientist W. Saitsew published a sensational paper which raised a lot of interest in the subject of extraterrestrials visiting earth in the past. Some of the information presented in his paper were based on the work which Prof. Tsum Um Nui did in 1962.

 

1962: Prof. Tsum Um Nui

In 1962 Prof. Tsum Um Nui managed to partially decode and translate the stonedisks and published his findings, which were so amazing that the academy of sciences in Beijing at first prohibited their public release. Prof.

 

Tsum Um Nui’s report told the story of a group of beings - called the Dropa - which had crashed their spaceship in the Baian-Kara-Ula mountains 12.000 years ago and who, after realizing their inability to leave earth again, had to put up with a rather hostile environment in order to survive.

 

Prof. Tsum Um Nui published this report after having received permission of the academy to do so, which earned him the mockery of many an archeologist.

 

Saddened by these events, Prof. Tsum Um Nui emigrated to Japan, where he died in 1965.

•  Tsum Um Nui appears not to be a Chinese name but rather a phonetic conversion of a Japanese name.

•  No ethnological minority with the name "Dropa" or "Dzopa" respectively is recorded in China.

 

1968: W. Saitsew’s paper "science or fantasy"

In the borderland between Tibet and China there is the cave region of the Baian-Kara-Ula mountains. 25 years ago, remarkable finds of tablets with writing and hieroglyphics were made there. Several thousand years ago a people whose looks chinese archeologists are only vaguely familiar with, had been cutting phonograph record like stonedisks out of the hardest granite with a set of completely unkown tools.

 

The 716 stonedisks found so far also have a hole in their center just as phonograph records do. From there, spiraling out towards the rim, are double-grooves. These grooves of course are not like sound-tracks but rather the most peculiar writing-system which has ever been found in China and possibly even the world.

It took archeologists and scientists over two decades to decipher it. The contents are so fantastic that the academy of pre-history in Beijing didn’t want to publish the report of the scientist Prof. Tsum Um Nui at first.

 

Backed by four colleagues, archeologist Tsum Um Nui stated:

"the groove-writing tells of aerial vehicles which, according to the stonedisks, existed 12.000 years ago".

In one place it says literally:

"The Dropa came down from the clouds with their airgliders. Ten times the men, women and children of the Kham hid in the caves until sunrise. Then they understood the signs and saw that the Dropa came in peace this time."

Finds of the Dropa and Kham races have been made earlier already in these mountain caves. Archeologists were and still are unable to ethnologically assign these only up to 4 ft. 4 in. tall humans. There are no similarities with the Chinese, Mongols or Ribetans. One could of course suggest that a few thousand years ago a Kham literate was playing a joke, or that it was mere superstition when he was talking about aircrafts.

 

But then, what does one do about the statement, all sensations excluded, reported in other groove-hieroglyphics of a great mourning about the own airfleet’s destruction during landing in the very inaccessible mountains and the lack of means to rebuild it.

The hieroglyphics of Baian-Kara-Ula appear to be so mysterious to the Chinese archeology that only very careful scientific use has been made of them. On one occasion a sensational discovery had been made. The disks contain a lot of cobalt and other metals.

 

When testing a disk with an oscillograph a surprising oscillation rhythm was discovered, just as if the disks with their groove-writing had once been charged or had functioned as electrical conductors. Nobody can tell what’s behind these 12.000 year old stonedisks.

Assumptions would be too risky and not objective enough. But one is reminded of the ancient chinese tale of the small and slender yellow people who came from the clouds and were shunned by everyone due to their ugliness - large, wide heads and very slender bodies - and hunted by the "men with the quick horses" (Mongols?).

 

In fact there had been finds of grave - and skeleton remains in the caves from 12.000 years ago and it’s also a fact that these finds, classified as remains of the Dropa and Kham race, carried the signs of a small body frame and very large heads.

 

The very first archeological reports tell of an extinct mountain gorilla species. But has anyone heard of ordered monkey-graves and writing- tablets? In 1940 the archeologist Chi Pu Tei was widely mocked at for making such a claim. But Chi Pu Tei defended himself by declaring that the stonedisks had been added to the caves by later cultures.

The above text is a translation of the original paper written by W. Saitsew and has not been altered in any way.

The Disks of Baian-Kara-Ula (1)

The Disks of Baian-Kara-Ula

... they came from the stars

The Hunt It all began in 1937-1938, in the mountains of Baian-Kara-Ula, the remote, uninviting slopes located on the border that divides China and Tibet. An archaeological expedition, led by the highly respected Chi Pu Tei, discovered a number of unique cave burial sites. What he and his team found in these previously unknown caves would soon be considered as something highly unusual. For many it would represent one of the greatest discoveries of the century, and change everything they perceived about their distant past and their origins as a people. Those who believed in the Genesis of the Bible only saw the so-called "scientific evidence" as possible proof of another creation of God intruding into Mankind's domain. By faith, this domain and any other living, thinking beings came from the one God worshiped by Christian and Jew alike.

The Caves

Chi Pu Tei, a professor of archaeology at Beijing University, directed the archaeological survey of a series of interlinking caves. In a report he noted that the "caves" may have been artificially carved, and were more like a complex system of tunnels and underground storerooms. The walls were squared and glazed, as if cut into the mountain with a source of extreme heat. Inside the caves were several ancient, but neatly arranged burial sites, and in them the skeletal remains of a people; a strange people.

The Skeletons

The skeletons, measuring a little more than four feet tall, were found "frail and spindly" with "disproportionately large" skulls. At first it was suggested that these might be the remains of an unknown species of mountain gorilla. Fellow researchers initially ridiculed Tei's published findings. The concept of gorillas burying their young was preposterous, but that left one important question to ponder: "What kind of human beings could these people have been?" "Were they human at all?" More discoveries made deeper in the connectiing caves eliminated the possibility that apes had lived there. On the walls carved pictograms of the heavens were found. The Earth, the sun, the moon, and the stars were there, and all were connected by pea-sized dots. It was obvious that the pictures were meant to be a map or chart of some kind, and that they were created by intelligent beings.

The Discovery The team then made what was called "the most incredible discovery of all." Half buried in the dirt floor of each cave they found unusual disks, originally referred to as "odd stone disks" and described as "obviously fashioned by the hand of an intelligent creature." These disks were approximately nine inches in diameter and three-quarters of an inch thick. In the exact center was a perfectly round 3/4 inch hole, and etched into its face was a fine groove spiraling out from the center to the rim, making the disk look like some kind of "primitive phonograph record."

One of the best preserved disks was dated to between 10,000 and 12,000 years BC old, older by far than even the oldest estimates of the age of the great pyramids of Egypt. This was incredible news, but what was to come would be even more remarkable. A final total of 716 such plates were found, and each held its own mystery. The grooves, upon closer inspection, were not grooves at all, but a continuous line of an unknown writing!

The Meeting

Dalai Lama with Dr. Evans

Shortly after World War II, a Polish professor named Lolladoff showed one of the 'stone disks' to British scientist Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans, who helped bring the story to the western world. Lolladoff claimed to have bought the disk in Mussorie in Northern India and that it was supposed to be from a mysterious people called the "Dzopa" (or "Dropa") who had used it for religious rituals.Robin-Evans would follow the trail of the Dropa to its origins, and was able to take a rare photograph of the Dropa leaders in 1947. His visit with the Dalai Lama was legendary, and provided a wealth of information on the reclusive, unique tribe of people.

The Translation

Many experts tried to translate the hieroglyphs in the 20 years the disc lay in Peking. They all failed. It was not until another professor, Dr. Tsum Um Nui, broke the code and started to decipher the 'speaking grooves' that the full implications of the disc were realized. Realized, that is, only by a select few. The outside world remained in ignorance. For the professor's conclusions on the meaning of the disc were so shattering that they were offically suppressed. The stone disks told an astonishing story of a 'space probe' by the inhabitants of another planet which came to crash in the Bayan-Kara-Ula mountain range. The strange, spiral script told how the peaceful intentions of the 'aliens' had been misunderstood, and how many of them were hunted down and killed by members of the Ham tribe, who lived in the neighboring caves.

The Dropas ruling couple (1947) - Hueypah-La (4 ft. tall) and Veez-La (3 ft. 4 in. tall) }

According to Nui, one of the lines of the hieroglyphs read, "The Dropas came down from the clouds in their aircraft. The men, women and children of the neighboring peoples (Ham) hid in the caves ten times before sunrise. When at last they understood the sign language of the Dropas, they realized that the newcomers had peaceful intentions...". Another section of the writings expressed 'regret' by the Ham tribe that the aliens' spaceship had crash-landed in such a remote and inaccessible mountains and that there had been no way of building a new one to enable the Dropas to return to their own planet. In the years since the discovery of the first disk, archeologists and anthropologists had learned more about the isolated Bayan-Kara-Ula area. Much of what they learned seemed to corroborate the bizarre story recorded on the discs. Legend still preserved in the area spoke of small, gaunt, yellow faced men who 'came from the stars, long, long ago'.

The men had huge, bulging heads and puny bodies and were so ugly and repellent that they were hunted down by local tribesmen on horseback. Strangely, the description of the 'invaders' tallied with the skeletons originally discovered in the caves by Professor Chi Pu Tei. As incredible as the Chinese disk story may be, there is more! On February 26, 1967, the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner ran an article about the Dropas. Part of it follows ...


The Riddle

"Riddle of Asian Stone Discs from Outer Space" (original newspaper headline)

Russian archaeologists are puzzling over a remarkable collection of stone discs, thousands of years old, found in the mountains bordering China and Tibet. So hard is it to explain them in terms of earthly experience that the archaeologists do not rule out the possibility that the discs may have come from outer space.

A total of 716 discs, like Stone Age gramophone records have been picked up in recent years by men exploring caves in the Bayan-Kara- Ula mountain range, reports the Soviet Union's new English-language magazine, Sputnik.

Each disc has a central hole and irregular grooves spiraling out to the edge, but the report says (quite seriously) that the groves are not sound tracks. It is thought that they are some form of ancient writing, but scientists have so far failed to decipher them.

Chinese archaeologists estimate that the discs are about 12,000 years old, but have made no headway at all in trying to explain their purpose or how they came to be in the caves.   The Russians, who have examined some of the discs in a Moscow laboratory, claim to have made two important discoveries. One is that the discs contain certain traces of metal; particularly cobalt. Secondly, when placed on a special turntable they hummed in an unusual rhythm like an electrical charge was passing through them.

The Russian Zaitsev, who has spent 30 years collecting evidence that intelligent beings from outer space have had contact with the earth, believes that the discs may give substance to ancient Chinese legends of small, gaunt, yellow-faced men who came down from the clouds many centuries ago ...

Drawings on the cave walls portrayed beings with round helmets, and drawings of the sun, moon and stars were shown with interconnecting rows of dots. The interconnecting dots could possibly portray the routes traveled by the ancestors of the beings in the graves or might have been drawn to show the outerspace origin of the ones who perished there in the cave ...

 

The Legend

In 1968 the russian scientist W. Saitsew published a paper which raised a lot of interest in the subject of nonterrestrians visiting earth in the past. Some of the information presented in his paper were based on the work which Professor Tsum Um Nui had done in 1962. For several years, nothing was heard of the disks. Then, in 1974, an Austrian engineer named Ernst Wegener came upon two of the disks in the Banpo Museum in Xian. The museum director could tell him nothing about the disks, which had begun to deteriorate, but she allowed him to touch one of them and to photograph them. He did so, but he had only a Polaroid camera with him. These photos are the ones that we see often reprinted today. In 1994, when Hartwig Hausdorf was in China, he asked the current director of the Banpo Museum about the disks and was told that they had disappeared.

In 1995 China released the following news report::
"In the province of Sichuan, which lies on the eastern border of the Baian-Kara-Ula mountains, 120 people of a previously ethnologically unclassified tribe have been discovered. The most important aspect of this new tribe is the size of its people: No taller than 3 ft. 10 in., the smallest adult measuring only 2 ft. 1 in! This discovery might be the first hard evidence on the existance of the Dropa/Dzopa - a people whose predecessors are said to have come from the stars."
Today, the isolated area between Tibet and China is inhabited by two tribes of people who, in fact, call themselves the Dropa and the Ham. Once enemies, these two tribes now co-exist peacefully. Anthropologists have been unable to categorize either tribe into any other known race; they are neither Chinese nor Tibetan. Both tribes are of pygmy stature, adults measuring between 3-foot-6 and 4-foot-7 with an average height of 4-foot-2, and body weights of 38 to 52 pounds.
They are yellow-skinned with thin bodies and disproportionately large heads, corresponding to the skeletal remains found in the caves in 1938. They have sparse hair on their bodies and have large eyes that are not Asian in aspect, but have pale blue irises. The Dropa people and their talking stone disks remain as mysterious today as they did in the late 1930s. Many researcher feel that the Dropa stone disks are definitive proof of an alien race that "came from the stars."