check out this un-Photoshopped version of Fennifer
Aniston from a recent magazine cover - very different from the Photoshopped
version:
Close Encounters with Celebrities & Show Business
by 'feliciag
'
http://doppels.proboards.com
2010 Aug
I'd like this thread to be a place where anyone who has firsthand, in person,
experience with interacting with celebrities can talk about what they have
observed. This includes anything "anomalous" which might speak to the idea of
replacements, clones, synthetics, and - yes- spiritual possession.
Even if all you did was see someone perform "live" at a concert, or you attended
a book signing or political rally, or maybe you had a random moment where you
walked past a famous person, I'd love for you to post observations here.
Also I would love people who have worked onstage professionally, worked as
model, or worked on film, TV, or music video sets to share any observations they
might have about weird "things that make you go 'HMMMMM?" The entertainment
world is FULL of high strangeness.
My own history comes as both a former actress/singer and also as a writer. Also,
I am just someone who has come across a lot of celebrities and people who work
in show business as part of my daily life. Some of it comes from the area where
I live, which is an artistic area where lots of celebs and artistic people chose
to vacation and/or retire.
I think I only understood the idea of replacements being possible on an
intuitive level for a long time. Most of what I've observed has to do with
significant emotional/spiritual/and interpersonal changes that happen when
people are presented with really big show business opportunities.
Please understand something very important as you read this thread. At any given
time, the members of the Screen Actors Guild are 99% unemployed. And there are
many, many other actors who are non-union who are also working in the industry
on and off, and they are also about 99% unemployed. There is also a TV actors
union called AFTRA, and a union for stage actors called Equity.
For the years I worked as an actress I was "Equity eligible," which at the time
was a sub-category of stage performers who had worked on jobs earning Equity
minimum rates, but had never actually been hired in an Equity show. At the peak
of my "acting career" I was making Equity minimum rates, which in the late
80's/early 90's was $300 per week. That was "rich living" in the acting
industry, believe it or not!
Most acting jobs last from four weeks to three months if you're doing a stage
show, such as with a regional theater, dinner theater, or youth theater. That's
part of the reason why the unemployement rates are so high. Jobs don't last very
long because shows might have a run for just a few weeks, and then you have
several weeks of rehearsals before that. So your entire "work" period might
consist of a very short period of time.
I did many different kinds of work ranging from regional theater to Shakespeare
in the Park type stuff to summer stock to kids' theater/school tours and more.
In between, I worked as much as possible doing things like voice over work, live
events like industrial work at auto shows as a spokesmodel, and TV and film bit
parts.
I was lucky to work steadily during the time I was a professional actress. I
never took work as a waitress, for instance, to keep me going between jobs. I
seemed to always have a gig going on. Most of my friends, in the meantime, made
more as waiters and hostesses in restaurants and worked for 2/3rds of the year
in the restaurant industry. And many of them were a LOT more talented than I
was. Show business is just a brutal, brutal industry.
The competition for women is also horrible. For every fifty women who would
audition for a show, there would be one or two men. This was at the Actors
Equity offices in New York. And then you have the horrible math of the shows
themselves. Almost always, there would be about two major female roles to about
10 - 15 male roles in a given show. So to get a major speaking role, let alone a
major role, as a female performer took a helluva lot of work - and some talent.
I only ever worked in major roles as an actress with the exception of one dinner
theater musical I did as a chorus player. So I think I was pretty good back
then!
In the stage world, which centers in New York, you have the Gay Mafia running
things. Befriend this crowd and you will continually get work. Piss them off,
and you'll never work in this town again.
I had written a play once that a former Broadway producer was looking at. She
was a lesbian woman who had worked on several big name Broadway musicals in the
1980's and 1990's. At one point, she pissed off some of the gay males who run
the industry in New York. And she literally became homeless almost overnight
from blacklisting. She liked my play but told me she couldn't really help me
since all her former friends had turned on her. So, to be clear, it is the gay
MALE mafia that runs the theatrical world in New York.
This makes for a very weird dynamic when you seek stage work in New York, as I
did. Many gay males took to me because at the time I was pretty glamorous and
looked like Jennifer Connelly/Brooke Shields, a popular look at the time. They
got me work.
When the rare straight male stage director auditioned me, it was always a
casting couch situation - sleep with me or you dont' get work - and I always
refused. So the only work I got in the theater from my New York auditions was
from gay male directors.
On the flip side of things, if you were a gay man auditioning for work and a gay
male director was casting, you also needed to be ready to sleep with the
director. One of my friends was very willing and got a supporting role in a
Broadway musical - but the show bombed, unfortunately. He didn't care about
sleeping wiht the director, he thought it was just fun!
I am explaining the background here about the stage world. The stage is very
different from TV and film, which I'll discuss in a moment.
Most of my steady work came from auditioning in New York for theaters that were
out of town, so I travelled and did tons of work up and down the East Coast. A
lot of the jobs were very fun (again, because I worked for either gay male
directors who admired me or straight female directors who simply cast me for my
talent.) I mostly did comedies, kids shows, and period pieces like Shakespeare,
with a few musicals thrown in.
Stage work can be very beautiful because you get to project loving and positive
energy to a crowd and attempt to share something uplifting or educational with
the masses. All of the actors I knew were very sweet, and we all tended to be
the typical right-brained creative types who were idealistic and naive about the
world.
And often very, very over-sexed. Any cast I was in always became an orgy of
almost everybody sleeping with everybody else! Where it got weird was when the
power players, the producers or directors, "adopted' a cast member as a lover.
Then that person was usually elevated to a position of power - they suddenly
took over the lead, for instance, with the original person suddenly not showing
up for work, etc.
But the theaters I was involved with were relatively small time, so I didn't see
much of the bigger, darker stuff until I started to work in TV and film.
I will continue that story in my next post.
To continue - for whatever reasons, maybe because the arts allow us to
express ourselves and be creative, show business attracts tons of wannabe
performers all over the world. This desire to be seen, to be noticed, and often,
to receive "love" and adoration on a massive scale seems universal.
I was fortunate to come from a loving family, but many of the performers and
models I knew did not. When they came from abusive homes or single parent homes
they almost always became more vulnerable to prostitution, abuse, and drug
addiction. Some of it is driven by the very real harsh economics of working in
that industry. 99% unemployment is really bad, let alone trying to compete with
a gazillion people who are prettier, more talented, and who have bigger
boobs/skinnier bodies than you do!
So from a director or producer's perspective, when you have thousands of
gorgeous young men and women dying to get a part, why not have some "hidden" job
requirements like sleeping with the director? If one woman refuses to do it,
chances are there are hundreds behind her in line who will say yes.
That's the mentality.
The problem is that young women often think that sleeping with the director
means that they will be taken more seriously as a performer and get more access
to meatier roles. It doesn't always work that way.
I knew two actresses, one who was a comedienne/actress, one who was just an
actress, who were trying to make it in New York and were pursuing every option
possible, knocking down doors, pounding the pavements, etc.
One of them ended up sleeping with yucky Jewish "comedian" Jackie Mason because
he told her he would help her get live comedy gigs in the city. He did invite
her to perform at one event, but that was it. She stopped sleeping with him
pretty quickly and the entire experience really darkened her, blackened her
spirit. She went from this gorgeous Italian-American New Jersey comedienne to
this saddened, heavy drinking, harsh-toned woman almost overnight. She told me
he gave her drugs, too, so God knows what really happened.
The other girl, the actress who was friends with the comedienne, actually had a
TV agent in the city who put her up for a minor speaking role on the TV show ER.
This actress was told that she needed to sleep with - I think it was the casting
director, not the episode director - and she did. She got the small performing
role. Her agent had basically operated as a madam - setting her up to sleep with
the director to get the role. After the agent knew the actress was willing to go
that route to get work, she set her up to work as a full-time escort between
acting jobs. The last I talked to this poor actress, she had descended into
full-time prostitution because she wasn't getting audiitons for acting work, but
her agent was sending her loads of johns to sleep with! So many acting agencies
are fronts for prostitution, escort services, S&M/dungeon master stuff, and
worse.
Joe Franklin who had a late night TV talk show in New York was another one
famous for getting young girls to sleep with him while making promises about how
he would set them up in show business. Which never happened for any of the
women. It was all a set up.
When men of power see all these gorgeous, talented, and often very sexual women
pursuing jobs in New York, many of them take advantage.
Now, I'm still talking about stuff happening on a relatively human level. Man to
woman. It's abusive, it's nasty, but in some ways, it's a story as old as time.
What I want to talk about next has to do with the price of celebrity and the
whole replacement issue.
What I've talked about so far is what happens in the very lowest levels, the
lowest "tier" of show business. This is where I was, where people were basically
just working for a living, trying to keep themselves and their integrity intact,
naive about the larger stuff going on for the most part. Some made bad choices,
fell into prostitution, drug use, and/or porn - amongst the models, actors, and
actresses I knew. But most of the people I personally knew well then stayed at
that level. They never became famous or "big."
I did, however, have many firsthand brushes with celebs who were on a much
higher tier. And weird stuff was constant within these circles.
As I mentioned in another thread, I do believe that there are two realities
within the industry. Insider/bloodline types who literally make a phone call
after they get out of Juilliard or film school and immediately get work in the
industry - who have often come from multi-generational abuse families. And then
there are nobodies like me who get work but don't have those connections. In my
career, whenever I would cross slightly over into the reality of potentially
getting bigger roles (in TV or film,) I was always presented with the "pay to
play" prostitution demand, which I refused. I kept thinking each time I hit that
wall in various cities, and various shows and film projects, that surely, at
some point I would find a big role that didn't require that, but I never did.
Casting directors, agents, and/or directors always made it clear that you not
only make yourself available to sleep with that specific power player, but most
actresses are expected to be on call in what's basically a pool of
prostitute/escorts for other powerful people that particular person might know.
Models also end up in this situation, only it starts very young for them, since
a model's career is usually over by 25. They start working at 13 - 16 and begin
working as prostitutes from day one in addition to going on modeling calls.
Because models also have to keep an extremely, inhumanly thin physique, they are
fed cocaine the very first time they are at a modelling shoot, usually, and this
keeps them lively and bouncy for the photo shoot, lowers their sexual
inhibitions, and makes them feel part of the "adult" crowd.
I have lived on a property where many Ralph Lauren and other high profile
clothes catalogue shoots have been held, in addition to many women's magazines
shooting photo spreads there. Cocaine was handed out at the refreshment table
much of the time. (I usually showed up, grabbed a snack, and left! I couldn't
believe how open the drug use was. The models were sickly thin but looked great
in the bulky clothes. )
So to cross into the higher echelons of entertainment if you DON'T have family
connections, you work yourself through the drug use/sexual
permissiveness/prostitution/escort levels, and this in turn leads to things like
mind control, having handlers, and into darker levels of what I believe is
spiritual possession or soul loss at a profound level. At some point, if you
"wake up" from the almost constant mind control and trance induction, and you
say "No," you can either be told you will never have a career (As happened to me
before I got involved with the crap;) and/or you can have your physical
well-being threatened.
I had death threats from one assistant director who had chosen me to play a
recurring character (non-=speaking) on a TV show. I did about ten episodes. He
was always inappropriately flirtatious with me, in a really creepy way, and when
I showed up one day with an engagement ring on my finger after getting engaged,
he got really nasty. He threatened my boyfriend's life and mine. I couldn't
figure out why. I was just a bit player, nobody famous, nothing. I just laughed
it off at the time but I knew another girl who had gone the prostitution route
on the show and slept with this same assistant director, which got her exactly
six speaking lines in one episode, and she became creeped out by him very
quickly. She talked about how he was violent with her during sex, always feeding
her copious drugs, and talked about how the next time she came over he would
bring some of his friends over from the set and she would have to sleep with
them.
She refused and broke up with him after that, naively thinking that theirs was a
relationship of equals. She moved back in with her ex-boyfriend and the
boyfriend had the tires shot out of his truck, she was gang-stalked while out
driving for months, and her agent would no longer return her phone calls for her
"unprofessional" behavior. The unprofessional part was her breaking up with the
assistant director.
Again, though, I'm just talking about lower level shenanigans in the industry. I
will talk more about observing actual celebs next. I just wanted to provide more
background on the thuggery, mandatory prostitution, and drug use that is a
constant in the TV/film world. ( I really didn't see this in the stage world at
all, so it seems more tied to the modelling, TV, music video, and film worlds.)
What I've described so far is really the "grooming" stage which I believe
later can set the stage for a performer, once they get famous, to become deeply
embedded in a very dark world, indeed. And having seen how dark it is, I can't
help but see that there must be people who protest and wake up at some point,
and also I see how their waking up must be a real threat to the controllers of
this system, so of course they are threatened, silenced, or killed. That's the
way the game seems to work. Awful.
One TV show I did starred Carroll O'Connor and the show was haunted by problems.
Parasitic drug dealers literally took up residence in the tiny Georgia town
where we filmed, preying on the cast and crew. Actor Howard Rollins had a major
cocaine problem throughout filming. Carroll O'Connor's son Hugh, who had been
given a small role on the show so Carroll could keep an eye on him (he was prone
to drug problems) became a sitting duck for the drug pushers and sunk deeper
into drug addiction. Some years later he died of an overdose. And the women on
the show were so horribly skinny and coke-addicted, it was terrible. They keep
the women of TV and film horrifically thin. I could see the ribs and backbones
of the main actress, Anne Marie Johnson, and a guest star who was a woman from
soap operas, when they filmed a party scene wearing backless gowns. They
seriously looked like refugees from a concentration camp - just like models. And
neither of these women was large in any respect - they needed to each put on
another 20 pounds just to be healthy. Many of the episode directors complained
about how Anne Marie was getting too fat. Yeah, the residents of Dachau were SO
frickin' fat, what lard-asses they were. What twisted people.
I didn't see any signs of replacements in these people, although celebrities are
always different in person than you'd expect. Carroll O'Connor was always polite
yet distant with everyone. Once in a while you'd see his famous humor come
through in some improvising - shades of Archie Bunker coming through. The show
was very serious and dramatic and slow-paced (It was the TV version of the film
In the Heat of the Night.) I was struck by how Carroll O'Connor seemed smaller
and frailer than he did as Archie Bunker, but I wrote it off as age. Plus he had
a heart condition and the stress of having to film extra hours due to his
co-star's drug problems added to that. At one point during production he had a
heart attack, but I wasn't working with him then.
Still--I should double check some photos of him to see if he's a replacement
possibility, just because you never know! And there was a big gap between him
filming his last Archie Bunker material, Archie's Place, I believe, in the early
80's? And In the Heat of the Night, which we were filming in 1989.
Anyway, the environment of filming on TV and film is just very toxic and it
would seem that most of the players on this set were trancing out with drugs
most of the time. Other TV and film sets I was on were much the same. It's a
pretty miserable life, in many respects, and it doesn't surprise me one bit that
people might try to "rebel" at some point and later get replaced. Especially
given the intense demands these days to be in front of cameras 24/7 and to be
just as "interesting" off camera as on.
I want to fast forward and mention some candidates for replacement that I'd
like to research more up ahead.
I had a friend who was friendly with Ann-Margret's biographers and sometimes saw
her backstage after her various shows. He had been going to see her live in
concert since the 1970's, when he was a young boy. He never spent more than a
few minutes with her, but she was always friendly and knew him by name. One time
she was performing at Caesar's in Atlantic City, doing a stripped down version
of the same show she had recently done at Radio City Music Hall in New York. (I
think this was 1996 or so?) My friend got us tickets and also, through the
influence of his friends, her biographers, got us backstage to talk to her in
her dressing room reception area for a few minutes after her show.
She wore dark sunglasses throughout and you couldn't see her face very well. She
was a petite thing, curvy and sweet, very polite. My friend had made it sound
like she really KNEW him and would call him by name, but she didn't do that. It
was more like she was forcing herself to be polite and do the obligatory guest
greetings backstage. We made small talk for a few minutes, complimented her on
her show, and then left.
My friend was shaken and freaked out afterwards. He talked about how her face
looked really, really different (beneath heavy makeup and her hair hanging over
her face I did think I saw some signs of facelifts and facial work, but I didn't
think anything of it - such is the way with older women in Hollywood.) He also
said how she didn't recognize him by name, and usually she did. (Admittedly he
hadn't seen her for a while backstage one on one. He had SEEN her backstage at
various points in the mid to late 80's but not one on one like we did that day
in - I think it was - 1996 or so? She probably met lots of fans, so did she
forget him? Probably?)
He also said how her show had been really lackluster and her singing was just
awful compared to the way it had been at Radio City Music Hall. He said that
show had been great, and this was really awful in comparision.
In retrospect, I'm wondering if she was replaced at some point? Or even if she
sends a replacement out to do some of her shows for her? Is that possible?
I've been looking at photos and in some of her photos as a young woman she
really looks like she has brown eyes, and in others they are lighter. Also she
goes from being really bosomy to not having as much bosom to bosomy again. She
had an accident in concert in the 1970's in which she fell from a stage and
supposedly had to have her entire jaw wired shut and restructured. Now I'm
wondering - was that replacement time? Or was that when a replacement took over
for a while while the original recovered, and from time to time she trots out
the replacement to cover her in a show? My friend said she did NOT seem like the
same Ann Margret he had watched onstage so many times and seen a few times
backstage - and that the performance we saw was nothing like the same version of
the show he had seen at Radio City.
I also have my radar out about her since she slept with Elvis many years back
when they fell for each other during a movie shoot - and who knows which version
of Elvis it was? Many people say that Elvis and she were like spiritual twins,
extremely connected and linked and powerful when they got together - like
soulmates. Sometimes when one celeb is replaced they replace an entire
surrounding constellation of people - as we've seen with the Beatles and with
many of the cast of Friends, etc.
So anyway, I wanted to put that story out there to return to later for further
research.
I'm glad you didn't end up working as model. Most open modelling casting
calls are really prostitution fronts, anyway, or they just force you to spend
lots of money on unnecessary head shots/professional photography, and then the
agency makes more from pimping and from the photos than actually getting the
models work. At those open calls they want really pretty and really DUMB,
submissive women. Very sad how such women are taken advantage of.
I can't speak to the military/police component of the sets - there wasn't such
high security on most of the projects I was involved in, but then, this was late
1980's/early 1990's and I think the whole celebrity culture has gotten a lot
weirded now, with much stronger security. The only time I saw a ton of military
looking/creepy security people trying unsuccessfully to "blend in" was when they
were filming A Beautiful Mind with Russell Crowe and Jennifer Connelly across
from my apartment in Princeton, New Jersey and they had these creepy military
looking dudes patrolling the streets while they filmed. I only had a brief
glimpse of Crowe from a far distance, and I never saw Jennifer Connelly or Paul
Bettany. I would have liked to have seen Jennifer just to confirm that she is
now Fennifer - but I didn't!
I wasn't aware of the whole reptilian/shapeshifting stuff back then, but on an
energy level, I definitely sensed a lot of characters in the casting
directing/casting agent/modelling agent roles and directing/production roles who
just intuitively creeped me out - and I think my instincts for self-preservation
kept me away from interacting with them very much. A few directors on the TV
show were nice. On In the Heat of the NIght they had guest directors for each
episode and some of them seemed very sweet and not creepy, creative and artsy.
Others were frightening. But I felt this stuff more intuitively and just shied
away from dealing with the ones that felt "wrong." In retrospect, given how
naive I was in other ways, I'm very glad I had those instincts and avoided
trouble!
About a completely different celebrity - I was kicked off an alternative
news/conspiracy site some years ago for sharing this story, which was weird.
We all know Michael Jackson hadn't been Michael Jackson for a long time and was
possibly replaced several times. And he came from a horrifically abusive family
where his dad sold all his children into bondage, basically. Many stories about
how old Joe Jackson once kicked little Michael in the crotch, which may have led
to permanent damage to his testes, and possibly the reason for his very high
voice well into adulthood. Anyway, lots of mess going on there.
The being who was masquerading as Michael Jackson around 1990-1995 often rented
out a suite at Leona Helmsey's The Palace luxury hotel. A friend of mine in the
hotel industry took me to see this huge penthouse suite, which takes up two
stories, has amazing views, beautiful grand piano, endless rooms. This woman who
was the concierge there during the time MJ was staying there told me about how
he would have groups of 10 - 15 Mexican boys, under the age of 15, shipped in by
a mysterious limo driver who would show up at the back delivery entrance and
bring the kids in for "play dates" with Michael. And MJ also always had Bubbles
the chimp with him and some other staff/entourage. The boys would stay over for
a night or two and then be shipped back out again. My friend and all the staff
used to dealing with VIP's knew that they would be blacklisted from working in
the hotel industry in New York if they let word get out about this.
The rooms were always a mess afterwards, she told me. Semen stains all over the
expensive couches. She showed me some of the specific couches that had had to be
replaced several times. Nasty stuff.
She didn't want to tell me anything more, but suffice it to say that the
insiders in the VIP hotel/lodgings world see a lot of stuff involving child sex
trafficking and sex slavery and these people being shipped in for certain stars.
The same goes for women sex slaves, too, it all depends on the celebrity's
tastes.
Another hotel industry friend who worked in lots of LA hotels on the West coast
talked about Tom Cruise (one of the Foms, no doubt) who keeps to this day a
special luxury penthose apartment for parties with his male gay friends - and
sometimes they ship in gay male escorts, some of them underaged.
So there is a ton of this underground sex slave/prostitution/trafficking stuff
that sits right along side the drug industry, both with parasitic hands in the
world of stars, celebs, and models.
Were the "originals" this goofed up? I don't know. The replacements do seem
heavily indulged, though. They get all the drugs and sex they want, plus loads
of spending money, fame, attention, etc.
In the past there has been a thread about Joan Baez and Foan. I can confirm
that Foan has been around for a while. I saw her perform live in concert at an
outdoor music festival in Pennsylvania, this must have been around 1986 or 1987.
While Foan had a lovely voice and a nice stage persona, I had happened to be
delving heavily into her earlier recordings right before I went to see her and
was very confused at the voice I heard singing. She still has a nice soprano,
but it's not the original Joan. When I saw Foan it was right around the time she
was coming out as a lesbian and had a memoir out about it.
I wonder how many times when a celebrity comes out later in life like that, that
this is really the replacement announcing their sexuality? The original Joan by
all accounts, while not an excessively promiscuous creature of the 60's like
many female singers were from her era, was straight - dated Bob Dylan (before he
was Fob,) etc. Also the fact that she is extremely famous for that relationship
she had with Bob hints at the possibility of replacement because we know that
constellations of people get replaced - lovers, family members, cast mates, etc.
And Joan/Foan got a lot of mileage out of singing that one song about her
romance with Dylan, I forget the name of it .....Diamonds and Rust? It's one of
her classic hits that she always sings. So the two of them are forever linked as
these iconic 60's characters, and we know that both have been replaced (Dylan
played by a lot of different people, some of them women.)
There was a notable incident in New Jersey some years ago where Fob Dylan was
picked up by a policeman for wandering aimlessly through some neighborhood and
didn't have his ID on him, and it was only when he was back at the station being
questioned that someone "recognized" him as Bob Dylan and sheepishly released
him from custody. He had either done a concert the night before locally or he
was slated to do one the night afterward, I forget. But nobody recognized him.
Makes sense. Who can keep track of all the Fobs? And that was also around the
time that that weird film came out where all those different actors (and one
actress, Cate Blanchett) played Bob. Sometimes they throw this replacement stuff
right in your face!
Artemis, Anne Marie was so extremely thin, I honestly can't believe she has
physically survived this long maintaining that level of drug addiction and/or
anorexia. When I met her she was shy, quiet, polite, professional, but sadly
addicted to coke as was her costar Howard Rollins. She had a very pretty face
with classic bone structure but otherwise was rail thin.
I also think Jennifer Hudson should be looked into. Any of these naturally curvy
women who are suddenly appearing excessively thin - including Kelly Osbourne as
you mentioned in another thread - always raise a red flag. It MIGHT be the
original person sometimes, but to me it just shows you how the person was
probably tortured into starvation for months while her agents/handlers dangled
the prospect of getting the woman more mainstream roles and work, which usually
doesn't pan out if it's still the real person because her natural weight will
re-assert itself. Horrid stuff.
I'm a tall gall, 6 feet tall, and many people wanted me to be a model, but I
also have big bones and could never get down to the required 125 pounds to do
mainstream modelling work. I did some minor modelling gigs but was told point
blank that I needed to be at a minimum of 125 pounds to get work in the
industry. I was told this in New York, Washington DC , Philadelphia, and
Atlanta, so it's pretty much the same all over. I've always maintained the same
weight and even right now my ribs stick out in my back (naturally, not from
starvation,) so I've never carried any extra weight to speak of. You wouldn't
say I had more than five pounds of extra flesh on me!
I tried back in the day to starve myself down but I couldn't get down any lower
than 139 pounds, and then I was getting sick from blood sugar problems and so
forth. Unfortunately at the time I was dating a guy whom I believe to literally
have been a shapeshifting reptilian (only figured out why he was so yucky many
years later) and he kept telling me, even at that weight, that I was too fat! He
didn't even work in the industry.
So there is a really weird conspiracy of negative beings, physical, and
non-physical, human and non-human or hybrid, industry connected and not, who
want young women to remain as hungry and weakened and weak-willed as possible -
and to hell with her health. Fortunately I figured out his sh*t and kicked him
to the curb, but since I was young (19 or so) it all left a mark on me
developmentally and it took a while to heal from those influences I was
immersing myself in.
Cinematographers are also heavily into the dark stuff that is so pervasive in
the film and TV industries. Through friends of friends I've had several
conversations with a man who has been a main cinematographer on tons of
mainstream hit films. He worked on Kill Bill with Uma Thurman and Quentin
Tarrentino and David Carradine. He described working on that set and his whole
gleeful description of the constant immersion in blood (fake, one would hope),
body parts being tossed into scenes, and other celebration of carnage really
made me sick. And he just loved it because he's a nasty piece of work. He
described the weird affair between Uma and Quentin and how he would sort of
program her to do her scenes. The real Uma seems very different, quiet, low-key,
nerdish and bookish. So definitely lots of programming and handling went on.
(I've never been able to watch the movie. Tarentino's work is such an openly
Satanic celebration of bloodlust, I want to kill the bastard.)
This cinematographer has also worked with some major action directors like
Michael Bey, who I'm convinced is an alien, he's not human - go look at his eyes
in a photo sometime! Again, this cinematographer only seems to work on these
action/bloodlust/bloodletting types of movies.
This guy (the cinematographer) is also a creep who keeps a wife at home, then
he'll go off to someplace to China for six months and sleep with second tier
actresses and crew members who work on the set, and then come home to the
clueless wife. Horrific all around. Sets pretty much operate as freefalling orgy
zones. "Married" people suddenly become "unmarried" for purposes of filming,
then go back to their significant others. Michael Douglas did this for years to
his long-suffering wife Diandra. Kathleen Turner recently confirmed this in her
biography, talking about how she and Douglas slept with each other while filming
the Romancing the Stone movies, then he went back to his wife. I'm glad Diandra
got tons of money from him in their divorce!
The same thing played out in the earlier marriages of Mel Gibson and Kevin
Costner. Remember how for ages their publicists promoted them as the ultimate
family men, still married to their longtime sweethearts, devoted dads, etc? Now
the truth is coming out about how abusive Mel is. Costner just always slept
around. I know someone who gave him a massage at a resort somewhere - I think in
Colorado? - and he always requested "happy endings," which ends in sexual
release.
Creepy world. Don't believe any of the "knight in shining armor" spin about ANY
star, male or female.
Yeah, it's there in the pageant industry. I was in the Miss Teen Pennsylvania
pageant back in the day, I think that is what it was called, and during the
three day rehearsal period before the pageant I was pretty much told by the
production heads that I was being given a very favorable rating by the important
people, because I could sing, dance, had good grades, etc. It was weird, it was
like they were telling me in advance I was going to win. Not that the prize was
much - I think it was just a couple of thousand dollars which you could use
toward your college education.
Anyway, as we headed into the dress rehearsal stage and were finalizing our
performances for the show/pageant (lots of song and dance numbers we had to
perform as a large group), one girl who was very sexually precocious, who had a
REALLY large rack on her, started noticing how the judges and pageant directors
were paying me a lot of attention, and she started kissing up to them. She ended
up winning the pageant.
I kept in touch with my roommates - three girls I had roomed with over that
rehearsal weekend who were all contestants like me - and one of them later told
me that that girl who won had slept with one of the male production people. Pure
coincidence that she happened to win, of course. The girl was 16 years old but
looked 22.
I hope she was okay after that and didn't sink into the horrible little sideshow
world of the larger national pageants.
I also knew a former Miss Pennsylvania, a very clean cut athlete type of woman,
she was Miss PA in the late 80's sometime; she talked about how at the national
pageant it was all about who would be most sexually accommodating to the judges
that weekend before the final pageant show was held. She didn't win Miss USA but
after what she saw, she had no regrets about it!
You know the now "D" list actress Tara Reid? (She of the addictions, the
horrible plastic surgeries, etc.) She makes her living earning about $20,000 -
$50,000 (when she looked better) as a private "escort' to many wealthy
international men.
When you are a C or D list celebrity female, you earn more as a prostitute than
as an actress. I guess the attitude of these poor, abused mind=controlled women
is "at least it's a job!"
Per "gig" -- which usually involves travel to be with the gentlemen in
question somewhere out of the country, at his estate, private island, or yacht.
The usual stuff. Pamela Anderson has been doing the same thing for a long time -
she makes more, though! Many others like this one actress Mena Suvari who made a
big splash in American Beauty but in recent years had disappeared off the map -
she actually makes loads of money as a dominatrix catering to clients with
certain, um, tastes.
This is all info gleaned from friends who work in LA hotels, Las Vegas too,
where this stuff is widely known about.
Since SAG minimum rates for a day long gig used to be, what $500 a day or
something? (I have no idea what they are now) and minor stars might get $10,000
for a small walk on role as the villain in a TV series - they can actually make
more consistent income doing the call girl stuff (and call boy stuff. Whole 'nuther
story.)
In addition, many female "celebs" got started in prostitution and later became
"stars." Or they worked in a few roles, their careers stalled, they went into
prostitution, serviced the "right" client, and then their careers became bigger
again. Case in point Denise Richards who was working as an escort when she got
involved with Charlie Sheen. Her acting career never took off and she always had
more work as a call girl than anything else.
Paris Hilton was a notorious LA prostitute and the only reason she ever became a
celebrity was because she blackmailed certain highly-placed entertainment people
who were in her "little black book" and that's how that horrible woman was
foisted upon us all (and young girls especially, who for a while really looked
up to her!) Her arrest for cocaine the other day is more typical of what she's
always been, what she's always been up to. Paris now makes between $500,000 to
$1million to show up at a "party" for the Kind of Bahrain's son or whatever -
she does those international prostitution/party appearance gigs all the time.
There is also a big esoteric/psychic ritual component. Depending on the
wiring of the woman, she might be used to conceive a particular type of soul
during a ritual, be used as a breeder, then the baby "disappears". Also sexual
rituals are used to bring energy to a person, company, project, endeavor, or
location. Older women are often used to help a younger member (male usually) of
a connected family celebrate his sexual maturity - think like a bar or bat
mitzvah ceremony, only instead of coming of age spiritually, he is celebrating
coming of age sexually. This can be done when the child is between 12 - 15 for
boys, and not too long after a girl's first period for the young girls.
You have the Madonnas who groom the younger women to eventually take their place
with the sexual/psychic rituals, but sometimes the older ones are still being
used for other things. It's never really been about youth but more about energy
and being able to access that person to harvest their psychic energy/emotional
energy, and the women who have had a lot of sexual abuse and fragmentation and
damage in their past are especially "popular" in this regard because they can be
trained not to remember being abused and will tend to dismiss everything as a
great party in which they had great drugs/drink, had sex with multiple people,
and went home with a lot of money.
Pamela Anderson "wrote" a novel a while back that talked about one of her alter
egos and discussed the frequent orgies "she" participated in. Thinly veiled real
stuff. But I don't think that book talked about any of the deeper esoteric
stuff. Again, with mind control and fragmentation sometimes the person doesn't
recall everything they end up being used for.
Thanks for the pay update - I've still got figures in my head from the late
80's/early 90's when I was in the industry - although I never joined the unions
as I mostly did stage work and made more being non-Equity than most of the true
Equity actors I knew (a lot of them worked under pseudonyms in non-union theater
settings so they could continue to pay bills, since Equity work is rare as hen's
teeth.)
I know a second tier TV actress/C-D list movie actress who has done some story
arcs on various crime/law type series-- often as the long suffering wife who
turns out to be the killer, that type of thing - she usually films for two days
max (AFTRA work) and since she has a bit of a "name" she pulls about $10,000 -
$25,000 when she gets a story arc like that. Still, she works rarely, like most
actresses her age (she's in her 50's now.) If she had slightly more name
recognition she says she could probably make more for these types of gigs, but
since she hasn't been in a mainstream movie for a while, her "asking price"
keeps going down.
She's someone who actually didnt' end up in the prostitution/sex slave track -
but then she took a long time off from the biz to get married, have kids, live a
normal life away from LA or New York - and she is also more of a character
actress type than a blonde/buxomed/impressionable sex kitten type - which
probably saved her!
With some of these ladies it's helpful to look at the constellation of people
they have "dated." How did Hathaway end up engaged to wealthy real estate
developer Raffaello Follieri, for instance? Info on some of his connections here
- from June 2008:
"More trouble for Raffaello Follieri, the fiancé of “Devil Wears Prada” star
Anne Hathaway; Attorney General Andrew Cuomo is investigating the Follieri
Foundation, a charity headed by the 29-year-old Italian businessman. The Post
has it that Cuomo’s office has subpoenaed financial documents belonging to the
Manhattan-based foundation, which is involved with vaccinating children in
developing countries, among other things.
"Follieri last made headlines when he was arrested for bouncing a $215,000
company check issued on behalf of his real estate company. Those charges were
dropped when he paid up last month, and earlier this year he also settled a
lawsuit brought by billionaire Ron Burkle, who accused Follieri of
"systematically misappropriating" at least $1.3 million from a joint business
venture to finance his lavish lifestyle.
"Hathaway’s spokesman tells the Post that the actress no longer serves on the
foundation’s board, though she had traveled to Central America with Follieri
last year for a charity-funded vaccination program. Cuomo’s office declined to
elaborate on the investigation, but apparently it has something to do with the
foundation’s failure to file tax-disclosure forms required of nonprofit groups."
Source:
http://gothamist.com/2008/06/09/anne_hathaway_b.php
So with this "fiancee" you have a bunch of things going on. First off, when
someone in the industry like Anne is suddenly engaged to a guy like that, it is
almost always due to an arranged escort/prostitution "date." People think it's
just because famous and wealthy people meet at parties, but it's not. Think of
Cindy Crawford and Richard Gere and how they said they met at a party. No, she
was a paid escort for the evening. At the higher echelons, these women
(supermodels especially) are EXPECTED to keep powerful men company - it's part
of the deal.
Sometimes it works out nicely and the woman actually enjoys being with the guy.
She ends up with a full-time "gig" as the real girlfriend or wife. That's how
you often end up with actresses marrying their directors. Or it's more cold and
calculated. He gets a bit of expensive, famous, beautiful arm candy - and she
thinks she's going to get lots of work because she's married to the director.
(Doesn't always work out that way, though. Many directors rarely use their
actress wives in films.)
Anyway, with Anne and Raffaello, you also have the constellation of Raffaello
having done a business deal with infamous Ron Burkle, a billionaire friend of
Bill Clinton, who is widely known to be a guy who likes procuring models and
other "willing" women for Bill - as well as enjoying them himself. So these
threads all interconnect. Also you have the connection through Raffaello to some
"world charity/vaccination program" stuff, with Anne having sat on the board of
the charity and travelled to third world countries doing "good works." These
organizations are usually fronts for prostitution, sex trafficking rings, and
drugs - but they love to have someone wholesome like Anne as the "face" of the
organization. I'm not saying she KNEW about all that stuff, she may have
genuinely believed things were kosher.
Anne and Raffaello broke up, but apparently she had let him take naked photos
and videos of her, and she was freaking out that these would be made public
post-breakup:
"Anne Hathaway is concerned that pictures she took without clothes on for her
now jailed ex-boyfriend Raffaello Follieri, might make their way onto the
Internet. Anne’s brother was seen going through Follieri’s storage space, but
the FBI had already raided the space the day before. Items taken by the FBI
included Anne’s diary, and those scandalous pictures. There’s also a rumor an
intimate video may have been taken as well. We’ve see Anne without a top on in
movies like Havoc, but we haven’t seen her doing the nasty on video yet. Since
we don’t have the pics from the storage space yet, the pics below will give you
a preview of what is to come."
Source:
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/anne-hathaway-naughty-picture-scandal/
Now, that's how the mainstream press always spins this stuff. She agreed to do
some soft porn photos and video for the guy, with the understanding that it
would only be circulated amongst a "connected" group of his friends. But after
she broke up with him, all bets were off, and she knew that he might get nasty
and circulate the material wider. This press release makes it sound like these
were just innocent little photos and vids taken between a consenting couple.
That's not how it usually works. The actresses agree to do porn in exchange for
all the perks of being with the rich guy - but with the understanding that they
lose rights to that material if they break up with the guy.
I think Anne got "lucky" or perhaps made some other concessions/deals, because
the release of this material didn't completely spoil her industry image as the
nice girl. But it looks like some of it has leaked to the Net and is viewable
online.
There is a higher tier in the porn world of homemade stuff made by gorgeous
actresses and models, whose boyfriends just "happen" to be directors,
photographers, celebs, or connected people and get exclusive access to the sex
tapes or photos these women do. I'm sure Raffaello passed Anne's stuff off to
his friends like Ron Burkle, who is into that world up to his eyeballs, maybe
even good ole Bill Clinton. It doesn't mean that it was ever going to be in
wider release at the lower levels of porn distribution - this is the more
exclusive stuff, the exclusive circles.
I'm afraid that these are the same exclusive circles who probably have access to
snuff films and sacrifices that are filmed, and that many of the same people who
end up being replaced might also have their deaths or torture filmed and
circulated. I can't say that with 100% firsthand knowledge, but I have known
people who survived sex trafficking, and they say that snuff films are done when
a sex slave/prostitute/call boy has gotten a bit haggard and worn around the
edges, past his or her "sell by" date, and/or pissed off the wrong people. And
there's a huge market in these exclusive, connected, and wealthy circles for
that stuff.
I think if we really want to know what happens to the people who get replaced,
that such snuff films would unfortunately tell us more than we would ever want
to know.
And about the actresses and celebs who are pregnant and then magically not
pregnant - case in point, Bristol Palin. She has been pregnant four times. The
first time in fall 2006 (there are photos of her wearing a green sweater dated
fall 2006 in which she is noticeably pregnant, about four months pregnant, maybe
five months). That baby "disappeared." Trig, which Sarah Palin claimed as hers.
Tripp, which Bristol had with Levi Johnston - maybe. Although she slept around
so much, and Levi has shown little interest in a decent custody arrangement,
that parentage is questionable. And this winter she bought a condo away from her
mom's place, moved in with a hockey player friend of Levi's named Ben Barber,
got pregnant YET again....broke up with Ben, got back together with Levi for
about five minutes (still pregnant with Ben's baby)..........
And now she's suddenly filming Dancing with the Stars.....not pregnant anymore.
SOME of these babies are most likely sacrifices. Sarah Palin will do anything
and everything to remain in the limelight and sold her soul and her body a long
time ago. She is systematically doing the same thing to all of her kids. Her
"veteran" son, Track, is a known drug addict and was arrested for cutting brake
lines on a bunch of school busses before he was shipped off to Iraq (with a
cushy job of driving dignitaries around.) Now he's home and back on the drugs.
Willow, Bristol's younger sister, vandalized a home and has also been arrested
for fighting with another girl - all covered up. They're all being groomed to be
part of the machine in one form or another, and it's the little ones who always
suffer. (I include the kids on this list because their destinies were sh*t from
the moment they were born. They never had much hope for a decent life.)
You can read a lot more about the baby stuff at:
http://palingates.blogspot.com and
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com
Vanity Fair just today came out with an explosive article that starts to expose
some of the really dark stuff about Sarah Palin - her facade, carefully
preserved by Karl Rove and Rupert Murdoch, is starting to crumble a little. But
the sheeple still want her to restore the Republic to its God-lovin', rifle-totin',
hating black people, ways, so I doubt she'll disappear from the scene for a
long, long time.
About Melissa Joan Hart - she's been working in show business since the age
of four, and having starred in Sabrina the Teenage Witch for all those years,
she is no doubt highly skilled at moving esoteric energy - mind control and
hypnotic energy - and influencing her young female fan base with whatever themes
the producer/writers wanted to get across. A lot of that is probably unconscious
on her part - she's just doing what she was trained to do.
Her husband Mark Wilkerson is a bit of a puzzle. Very little info available on
him even though he has his band A Course of Nature which has had some minor
hits. The two of them did name their first kid Mason Walter Wilkerson, which is
interesting. Who uses Mason as a first name unless it has some significance - a
nod to the Masons perhaps?
My sense of this couple is that they are very good workers for the system. They
represent the "good guy/good girl" platform. They are being USED by the system
but might not be insiders themselves. Melissa is busy being a good breeder,
though - just had her second kid I think.
Keep in mind with the breeder women is that there are often children born
between the pregnancies we hear about - that get "donated" or sacrificed. Kids
who can move psychic energy as powerfully as Melissa no doubt can would be
highly prized.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Melissa's own children, or at least one of them,
don't get offered to the star machine when they are a little older. Tune in on
them in about ten years!
As expected since I joined here, I've been getting a certain amount of
unpleasant - pushback - for posting. That's why I've sort of been posting in a
burst. I'm going to probably have to go dark for a while after my flurry of
posting, but I'm sure you will all understand why. I'm not even in the industry
anymore, but the psychic attack and synchronistic real time "warnings" (close
car accidents being one) have been kicking up again. This always happens when I
talk about real things. Some of you probably know me from past posts on esoteric
type forums and alternative journalism/conspiracy forums, where often an entire
group of gangstalking behavior starts kicking up when I piss off the wrong
people. So much fun! Not.
So I will probably post some more today and might not be around here after that.
Just wanted to let you know.
Speaking as a former performer, I always had a very pure and spiritual
component, a very genuine intention to spread love and light and positive
emotion, through my work as an actress/singer/musician/comedienne/writer. Very
early on I ran into the dark arts. There is literally a much more pervasive
darker form of "art" that is ruled by the Illuminati/reptilian/negative
ET's/negative humans/military industrial lodge complex (they're all pretty much
the same group, from what I've seen.)
I did tons of Julie Andrews, upbeat, positive ingenue type of work, largely
comedic, some of it kids' theater, a lot of it musicals, most of it live stage
work. It was only when I started auditioning for, say, David Mamet plays, in
which the women are always hardened, and often whores, that I started to see the
"Bizarro" universe that co-exists in the arts next to the more innocent, love
and light, having fun, making friends, trying to change the world crowd. (Yes, I
was a neo-hippie type in the 80's!)
Whenever I auditioned for "darker" roles, I was always creeped out by the
metaphysical components. Lot of negative energies always attached to the
directors, casting people, the actors and actresses who usually got the leads,
etc. A theater in which that stuff is happening feels completely different than,
for example, a nice little dinner theater out in the country where I portrayed a
character in Camelot. The dark stuff definitely involves negative entities -
often entities and energies that the performers WELCOME INTO THEIR BODIES in a
form of willful possession.
Remember Oprah Winfrey's movie Beloved which she did a while back? In interviews
she talked about allowing herself to be literally possessed by a dark, unhappy
spirit of a slave - so she could better play the role. This is what actors and
actresses are encouraged to do - to become entirely disassociative and to allow
something "other" to come in.
Madonna talked about being possessed by the spirit of Eva Peron when she filmed
the famous balcony "Don't Cry for Me, Argentina" scene for the film version of
Evita. Ironically, she gave one of her best performances in that movie - because
of her ability/willingness to be possessed. (And Eva Person was a piece of work
- former whore, full-time fascist, exploited by the military industrial lodge
complex she married into in the form of Juan Peron. She was also given "CIA
cancer" which killed her off prematurely.)
Anyway, there seems to be the good Jedis and the dark Sith lords in the arts,
and unfortunately, the darker arts are being strongly celebrated these days.
Actresses like Anna Paquin, who didn't have much of a career after her childhood
nomination for best supporting actress in The Piano, has had to turn to the dark
side of art to get recognition again in her vampire TV series, True Blood. There
can be a lifelong process of trying to get a talented artist to turn to the dark
forces. After that happens, a lot of subsidiary dark stuff happens - involvement
in arranged "dates" with powerful men or women in the industry; feeding the star
tons of drugs to get them to disassociate and go along with the abuse that
starts to happen to them; and then involvement in actual dark rituals,
sacrifices, but more commonly, sex rites (at least in the beginning. Think Eyes
Wide Shut/orgies)
Sometimes stars protest and try to get out. This can work, to some degree. Jeri
Ryan of Star Trek: Voyager fame was married to the politician Jack Ryan.
Remember that story?
"On June 22, 2004, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider agreed to
release the custody files. The decision generated much controversy because it
went against both parents' direct request and because it generally reversed the
early decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. It was
revealed that six years previously, Jeri had accused Jack Ryan of asking her to
perform sexual acts with him in public, and in sex clubs in New York, New
Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips
and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."[13] Jack Ryan denied these
allegations. Although Jeri Ryan refused to comment on the matter during the
campaign, the document disclosure led Jack Ryan to withdraw his candidacy,
clearing the way for Barack Obama to win the seat."
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ryan
I'm not sure how Jeri survived the public exposure of these facts, because
usually, you get silenced if you talk about this stuff. Was she replaced?
Haven't had time to look into it.
Anyway, suffice it to say that there is a lot of gatekeeping going on in the
world of the arts, and for whatever reasons, passing through those gates usually
involves a lot of terrible relinquishment of one's free will, sexual well-being,
spiritual sovereignty, and worse.
The negative gatekeepers need a certain amount of true artists, lightworker
types who are more fueled by love and innocence, and sometimes such types are
targetted to be moved to a higher level of the playing field while AT THE SAME
TIME keeping them surrounded by relatively nice "handlers" who don't corrupt
them.....at least, not yet. But it seems that everyone in that industry has to
make the choice between corruption or getting out of the industry at some point.
Drugs and alcohol and spiritual possession make it easier to say, "Screw it,
I'll do anything to get a job." But a lot of people who try to make it okay
within themselves end up the victims of replacement later on, because at some
point, they usually do protest or get what's called "a big mouth" and give that
one revealing interview or comment to the media that can get them in real
trouble.
The Bristol Palin stuff is really interesting because it's all pretty much
poorly hidden in plain sight. There are a bunch of bloggers who were silenced
when they started really hammering the evidence about Sarah Palin covering for
Bristol's pregnancy with Trig. A few survived, most notably
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com and
http://palingates.blogspot.com. Gryphen of Immoral Minority actually has
boots on the ground and lives in the same town as the Palins and has been
dutifully chronically the Wasilla Mafia that silences people who mention
ANYTHING negative about the Palins. Her people called up the school where he
worked and reported him as a child molester to get him fired. Not to mention
publicizing his name, license plate number, and worse. There are so many brave
citizen journalists who are trying to do the real work of exposing the powers
that be, and since Palin is supported by Karl Rove and Rupert Murdoch, things
have gotten even bloodier around her in recent months. One nurse who helped care
for Bristol Palin's child, Trig, after he was born prematurely with what was
most likely Fetal Alcohol Syndrome had her house set on fire, her dogs drugged,
and she and her dogs died. Horrible stuff.
About the Olsen Twins from Full House - I don't have any firsthand knowledge of
them, all I know is the twins ALWAYS creeped me the f**k out! Like they were
possessed as very, very little girls maybe. Then when the one Olsen twin just
happened to own the apartment where Heath LEdger overdosed, and the massage
therapist who found the body (hint: she wasn't a massage therapist but a hired
sex worker) called the Olsen girl first instead of 911, that just seemed to be
par for the course with them. Remember the satanic blood sacrifice type feeling
of Heath Ledger's death, coming just as Batman was coming out, and how the whole
morbid situation ended up creating huge box office receipts - not to mention a
posthumous Oscar nomination for poor Heath? Think that wasn't all manipulated
every step of the way?
It's all about looking at the connections that these people plug into. You'll
find a lot of nasty and juicy stuff that way
I'm just going to throw this out there about Rod Stewart and maybe you guys
and gals can look into it more at some point if you want to.
Sometime between 1967-1989 I encountered Rod Stewart (or perhaps Fod) on the
streets of Atlanta. It was right in front of Tower Records downtown, not too far
from where Rod was performing for a couple of nights at the Fox theater. He was
wearing an almost cliched rocker's jumpsuit, a one piece brightly colored,
unwashed and dirty, outfit, and he looked slovenly and unkempt. The thing that
struck me was that he had the most horrific skin you ever saw - acne covering
every half inch of his face. Now, that sometimes happens when stars have a bad
allergy to stage makeup and there's not a lot you can do about it. But he also
looked like he had deeply pock-marked skin from lifelong acne. His hair was
stringy, bleached blonde, and yucky looking.
I was walking with my friend at the time heading into the store, and Rod/Fod
perked up when he saw me. He chatted me up for a moment, and he even offered an
invitation to a party he was hosting later that night after he performed, but
the whole thing took place in this surreal ten minutes or so during which I was
mostly going, "Is that really Rod Stewart? Something is really off here." I
gently said I was busy, thanked him, and headed into the store. He had already
left the store with a bag of purchases so he continued out to his bus or his
taxi or his limo or whatever, I didn't wait to see.
Later that week I heard anecdotes from some of my performer friends who lived
downtown that there had been lots of Rod Stewart sightings during the time he
was in town. Just like I had seen, he didn't travel with any security, didn't
have a girlfriend or wife on hand, and kept inviting people to a big party at
the Marriott Marquis I believe - I think he was staying there.
I didn't know anybody who actually WENT to his party, though.
Thing is, later on (and there wasn't any Internet to speak of back then, so I
couldn't look him up online) I looked at some friends' record covers, Rolling
Stone mags, and so forth and the guy featured on those didn't look anything like
the guy I saw. The guy I saw was maybe 5'9 or 5'10 and his accent wasn't
particularly noticeable, he sounded more American than Brit.
The freedom with which the guy was wandering around town seemed odd. Admittedly
Atlanta is a second tier type of city, hardly a New York or LA, but he was
wandering around on his own without ANY entourage at all. And he didn't seem
drugged up or drunk, in fact he seemed kind of nice and polite and friendly. (He
still could have been high, though, but it didn't seem like he was obviously
so.)
So anyway - I have always wondered what the hell that was. Did I see a
replacement?
In more recent Net searches I do see some discrepancies that might hint at
replacement, but it's also possible I saw a stunt double, stage understudy, or
hired "double" who was simply on call that weekend.
The weirdest thing was how OBVIOUS the whole "I'm a rock star and I'm walking
around town in my yellow rocker's one piece jumpsuit going to the Tower Record
store" thing was. Like it HAD to be an actor pretending to be him. Doing a poor
imitation.
But who knows?
Tabasco, I do think that many stars begin as innocent, spiritually sensitive
beings with immense talent and that some of them end up surrounded by or working
for dark people, dark organizations, and dark NON humans (ET's or hybrids) and
once that stuff happens, they can barely control what happens next. However, you
do have to WANT to make it in show business and have that desire - to reach the
point where you say, "Screw it, I just want the work." That invites in the other
stuff - the possession, the prostitution, and worse. Unfortunately, though,
sometimes it will be a person's agent, manager, parent, producer, or director
boyfriend who dominates the decision making process, and the artist might be
naive or powerless about saying "No." It's all very, very sad.
Clones and synthetics - I'm not really sure what all is going on there, myself.
I do have a theory that sometimes horrific plastic surgery, of the type that
really is more mutilation than beauty improvement, can sometimes be done as a
form of torture to bring the star "in line." I can't look at some celebs like
Mickey Rourke, Heidi Montag, and Ashley Simpson without thinking "Maybe the
original is still in there but they were tortured into shutting up or falling in
line in some way." So using extreme surgeries as a form of torture and abuse
might happen long before someone is actually replaced, or maybe in place of
replacement. But then some real plastic surgery DOES take place to make
replacements look like the originals, too, or to even "improve" upon the
originals. So it all gets very confusing.
Jezebel.com has had a lot of interesting exposes of how blatant the extreme use
of PHotoshopping has become on magazine covers - not really a surprise, but
interesting. So you'll see an actress who is perfectly fit get PHotoshopped down
to a size zero waist just because the sick as f**k editors are part of the
agenda promoting women to be undernourished, weakened, and submissive.
(That's a whole different story, magazine editors. The few nice ones I worked
with were few and far between and they were often replaced by the very literal
WHORES that owners like SI Newhouse would bring in to take over his various
publications. Whole different war story there. YUCK. All of the arts are so
horrifically controlled by yucky, possessed and/or non human beings. )
About the potential incest thing......put it this way. At least TWO bloggers
who were covering the anomalies of the birth/conception/delivery of the Down
Syndrome child we now know as "Trig Palin" BRIEFLY mentioned the incest thing
and a WHOLE LOT OF HURT happened for both women. Death threats, one got sued,
and more. Maybe it was from Sarah's "fans," but maybe there was more to it. The
parentage of Sarah's own children is mixed. Curt Menard was mysteriously killed
when someone put stuff in his fuel line and he flew his small plane and crashed.
This was after a reported affair with Sarah. It is likely that Track Palin, who
looks just like Curt Menard and granddaddy Menard (the ears especially are a
giveway,) is the son of Curt. And there are questions about Sarah's other
children and them not belonging to her current husband Todd.
The scariest stuff as you research the family are the shady origins of CHuck
Heath, Sarah's dad. He remade his own history and looks like he had to leave one
state and flee a couple of times. Lots of revisionist history around that man.
PHotos of him show a possessed being who is not human. Also, he has been openly
quoted regarding Sarah having little kids around in saying that "little kids are
always losing their underwear" and other horrific quotes that hint at sexual
abuse in that family.
Then you look at the family's scary Dominionist ties, and how Dominionists are
working hard to bring on Armageddon and the Rapture, and within their sect they
encourage lying to non-believers because non-believers are literally considered
NOT REAL, or demons, and you start to see more of the nasty pathology.
Different subject - going back to the whole idea of dopplegangers.
Traditionally a doppleganger is considered a double, either a physical being or
a non-physical being, which mimics someone else in every way, to the point that
people get confused as to who is real and who is the "original."
One of the most famous doppleganger stories was of Percy Bysshe Shelley, husband
of Mary Shelley of Frankenstein fame. Not long before Shelley's death his
friends reported seeing him walking outside a window of the house, but it wasn't
him because the real Shelley was somewhere else at the time. Since he died soon
afterward, there were whispers that that had been a doppleganger - which can
often be said to be a harbinger of the original's death.
If you travel at all in this world and happen to work in a field in which you
are exposed to lots of strangers, you soon see that there are only a certain
amount of body/skin/voice/personality types out there.
In my work as an actress I'd regularly move to a new town, end up living in
close quarters with thirty complete strangers, and get to be very close to those
new friends during the time we'd work on a show together.
What struck me after a few years of doing this is that I was starting to see
doubles everywhere. Certain "types" kept repeating themselves. Amongst gay men,
for instance, I kept seeing repetitions of almost the exact same type of man
over and over again. Very eerie when you've travelled to a new part of the
country, the guy has a different name, and he sounds, looks, and acts exactly
like someone you befriended months before in a different state, on a different
acting job.
When you haven't travelled much, you don't see this stuff. But it's real.
So that DOES mean that the frequency of NATURAL physical/voice/and personality
doubles is higher than you might think - unless you have travelled a lot and
spent time with tons of strangers as a gypsy performer type like me has.
Then I went on to do counselling for a decade and worked with thousands upon
thousands of strangers. And I saw doubles ALL THE TIME. These weren't just
people who looked alike, talked alike, etc. Their ISSUES and problems, the
dynamics they were experiencing in relationships, family, and work, repeated
themselves. So I'd meet someone through a referral who lived in one state and
talk with her and she would almost exactly mirror somebody I'd met five years
earlier in a different situation, different state, and the issues the person was
dealing with were exactly the same.
Some people talk about "twinning" as a programming phenomenon, and this is when
two people, unbeknownst to each other, are chosen from birth to lead eerily
parallel lives, experience similar mind control, patterns in their lives, and so
forth. They may or may not eventually meet.
But I'm not really talking about that.
I'm talking about the fact that we aren't that original. We like to think we
are. But if you travel around from state to state, talk with and intersect with
thousands of people in each state, you are going to find people who are very
similar to other people, and this isn't necessarily something that has been
manipulated. It can be entirely natural. The people who resemble each other
might not ever know each other.
I've had a lot of times in this lifetime when people have sworn up and down that
they know me and knew me. Sometimes by a different name. As a little girl
visiting with distant family in Kansas I had a group of schoolchildren my age (I
was in sixth grade at the time) swear that my name was something else and they
all really liked this other girl and were happy I had come back.
I've had people I met through children's theater tours, both students and
administration, swear that they knew me already - by a different name.
The weirdest celeb-related experience I had where someone swore they already
knew me was with Remington Steele actress Stephanie Zimbalist.
In 1989, after Remington Steele had ended, (and I believe before her former
costar Pierce Brosnan was taking over the Bond franchise - or maybe he was just
starting to?) Stephanie was doing a few TV movies. She did a move for the
Hallmark Hall of Fame people called "Caroline?"
The plot of the movie was weird. In it, Stephanie played a woman who took over
another woman's identity - pretending to be the real Caroline - so the movie was
all about a double taking over for the original.
I was just a day player, an extra with no lines, and I had a couple of days work
doing background scenes. It was set in the 1950's so we had to get dressed by
the costume people in period outfits and makeup and hair, which was fun. I was
dressed and then sent to a trailer to get my makeup and hair touched up.
Stephanie Zimbalist was already in the trailer getting her hair and makeup done.
She was talking with some of her people and I didn't inject myself into the
equation, not knowing if she was one of those stars who hated people to bother
her or not.
But she saw me right away and her eyes got big, and she said, "Hi, I know you!
You were on that other set - " And she went on to describe how she and "I" had
gotten to know each other really well, struck up a friendship, on the set of
another project she had done. But she couldn't remember my name.
I said, "Um, Ms. Zimbalist, I'm glad you and that other woman had such a nice
chat, but I'm afraid it wasn't me. " And I told her who I was and how I lived in
Atlanta (we were filming in a pretty old neighborhood in Atlanta, just a few
blocks from where I lived at the time.)
She was polite but really surprised. She said, "No, you're (so and so) and I
remember talking to you, and it's nice you're here again and we get to work
together again."
She was really insistent that I was this other person.
I don't know if it was because I was in costume, wearing a nice woman's tailored
suit from the 1950's, with my hair back, or what - but Stephanie really thought
she had met me before.
I didn't get to talk to her anymore that day as I was just doing background work
and Stephanie was only in some of the scenes, anyway.
But isn't that weird?
To me it just shows you how easily a double can pretend to be the real thing -
even if the double was me!
And given my travels, I know for a fact that body types, skin types, profile,
mannerisms, tone of voice, and personality REPEAT THEMSELVES FREQUENTLY.
So it wouldn't be at all hard say, if you were trying to "recruit" a certain
type of double, to canvas the population and locate people who closely resembled
other people.
I don't think "cloning" is required, at all. The naturally occurring doubles out
there in the population are rich and frequent. Perhaps cloning does take place,
but from what I've observed, finding natural doubles is pretty easy.
I've never seen the show
(True Blood) but always
liked Anna Paquin. I've about had it with vampire culture, though. The mass
indoctrination to appreciate, welcome, and embrace soul draining esoteric
entities, but embodied and disembodied, is exactly the core of the spiritual
dilemma we remaining humans face on this planet right now. Stories that
celebrate vampire culture have all the same crap running through the
productions, through the energy fields of the actors, in my opinion. So stay
shielded when you watch the show, 'kay?
Fine. Have fun!
Do you know any real life vampires?
I do.
I live in an area of the country where Anne Rice's biographer, Katherine
Ramsland, is operating her own little Satanic blood letting vampire cult. Her
"day job" is as a professor of death sciences - excuse me, forensic studies- at
a university. The glorification of dead flesh, autopsies, murders, psychokiller
pathology, etc. Fun stuff.
I know a young gay guy who was killed by one of her worshipper/followers
following along with the whole culturally pervasive MINDf**k that is vampire pop
culture.
So how does that tie in to your innocent viewing of a popular vampire show?
It does. It speaks to the larger culture, whether you want to look into the
esoteric side of it or not.
Katherine Ramsland and I have met and she is not human. Pale, blonde, blue-eyed,
but with that classic Nordic/albino reptilian fleshy face that looks like a
rubber mask.
I had to shield myself psychically the whole time i was in the room with her
because she had all this CRAP coming out her energy field trying to latch onto
my own energy and drain the sh*t out of me.
But you know, there's nothing wrong with vampire culture. It's all just good,
wholesome, f**king fun.
Just like the rest of it.
Innocent performers who are trying to bring beauty into this world who get taken
over and possessed, financially, sexually, spiritually and in astral/dreamspace
by all these same assh*le entities --- no harm done, right?
Have fun.
It's fun. It's always entities in somebody's energy field, entities someone
has given PERMISSION to be there in their field, that drive me off these boards.
I can deal with the real life death threats, attempts on my life, psychic
attack, all the usuall yada yada ba boom that I've been putting up with for
thirty f**king years.
But see - it's the Artemis' of the world that always are the gatekeepers on
these forums. Carissa, you know what I"m talking about, 'right?
Same person, same critters, same stuff.
Masquerading as truth seekers. Then the entities show.
Really interesting stuff.
As I said before, I'm out of here, but best wishes to The Mask, Sherlok, and
others.
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About Jane
Fonda and the
various possible Fanes......I remember in an interview she did (one of the Fanes
probably?) she said that when she first came to Hollywood and tried to get work
she was told very plainly that she was going to need to have a LOT of physical
alterations in order to be "qualified" to work in the industry. I remember one
of the alterations she mentioned was that people told her she was going to have
to have her jaw broken and realigned to be considered camera worthy. She did not
mention in this interview if she had agreed to have this process done, but she
said it in a very matter of fact way, as if starlets having their jaws broken
was absolutely a commonplace occurence in the 1960's in the Hollywood mill.
Now, of course, this was probably a Fane telling this story - because I watched
this interview sometime in the late 80's or early 90's, and she was probably
replaced at least once by that point. Perhaps she said this to explain aware the
severe differences in her face shape between her early days as a starlet and
later times.
But it really struck me - we tend to think of things like nose jobs, breast
jobs, and the like as relatively newish required procedures for starlets. But
this stuff has been pretty commonplace since at least as far back as the
1950's/1960's. Jaws broken? Sounds pretty extreme, doesn't it?
Another thing that struck me in that Fane interview was how calm and unconcerned
she was describing this stuff - sure speaks to the mind control that wannabe
celebs step into where they will do literally anything to their bodies to get
work in Hollywood - and the horrible enslavement of the women, too.
It has long been rumored that Marilyn Monroe was an early recipient of silicone
injections to her body/torso - the early version of a boob job - and that
chronic pain stemming from this procedure was part of what nearly drove her mad,
led to her severe emotional ups and downs, and her drug and alcohol addictions.
I think it might well be a contributing factor if Farilyn the replacement had
all of that stuff done to her. (I'm not talking about the original Norma Jane
here, obviously.)
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Last post today, I promise!
About Jennifer
Connelly.
I can say with 100% certainty that the "Fennifer" we see today is not the
Jennifer I worked with on a John Hughes film called Career Opportunities. I
didn't get to act with her much, but I did see her film several scenes. At that
time I only knew her from Labyrinth, and I knew she had been a model.
Back then she had a more - elfin - quality than Fennifer has ever had. Hard to
describe. But definitely there was an overall look to her features, especially
since she was about 19 or so when she filmed this and she was young, of a
slightly off kilter elfin quality. All the features were "perfect," but the
symmetry made you think "supernatural, beautiful creature" instead of
plasticized girl.
One thing I was shocked by at the time was that a lot of the crew and production
team, including the assistant director, were making really dismissive and nasty
comments about her. I remember them arrogantly asserting that if this film
didn't work commercially, if it wasn't a success, then "it would be over for
her." Or they might have said "It's all over for her."
I was really struck by the implied violence of that statement. And these people
were drop dead serious as they said this. I heard this said by two crew members
and also by the assistant director at separate points in several days worth of
filming as they were standing around before and after scenes were filmed. At the
time I just dismissed it as the cruelties of show business and how you only get
one shot sometimes at a big breakthrough role. But since learning about how many
replacements are happening, this statement keeps haunting me as I consider its
implications.
The film didn't do well at the box office at all, and you didn't hear from
Jennifer again until she did The Rocketeers which did okay commercially. And she
did a movie where she was topless and was suddenly in the limelight again. I
think at this point it was all Fennifer, though. It's like the original quiet,
shy, and pretty girl I observed is gone and this version is more womanly (bigger
in her frame and curvier than Jennifer was. The Jennifer I saw was tallish and
skinny all over. No extra flesh anywhere! More of a classic waif thin model
physique. )
One thing that they did seem to get right with Fennifer is the eyebrows. The
seem pretty close to the original's eyebrows. I'm amazed at how they can get the
really bushy eyebrow look on a woman who doesn't have thick eyebrows, but they
can do it. The most dramatic illustration of eyebrow transplants is the new
Megan Fox- Fegan. You'll see in some early photos of Megan that at one point she
had extremely thin, over-plucked eyebrows. Once you've damaged the eyebrow line
to that extent it doesn't grow back out into a full bushy line again. The Fegan
has perfect, thick brows, and they look so perfect you can tell the hair is a
transplant. (Yes, they DO eyebrow transplants. Kind of a common procedure if a
woman has overplucked and doesn't have a good eyebrow line anymore.)
Mask - Yes, I'm not entirely sure that the Jennifer Connelly replacement came
in that early, either - only that she definitely was replaced at some point.
Very sad because the girl I got to see on the set was very sweet, hard-working,
creative, and dedicated to what she was doing. Why get rid of her? She seemed
compliant and willing to do everything director John Hughes asked of her, and
Hughes seemed very happy with her work. She would come up with little
improvisations to the scenes and he loved all the little things she added. Like
she was filming a scene where she was shoplifting and she was supposed to go
from point a to point b in a store. She added lots of funny little moments along
the way, interacting with a woman who was an extra whose character was supposed
to watch her and discover she was shoplifting. Everything was unscripted and she
had great natural timing and instincts. She would seem "perfect" in the sense of
being a good actress - but something went on behind the scenes, obviously, to
end up in a replacement situation. My guess is the casting couch. It's not
usually just a casting couch - in show business it's like with modelling, they
also usually prostitute young actresses out to other powerful people. Maybe
that's where she drew the line? Or went along for a while, got the Rocketeer
movie, that other drama where she was topless, and then had enough?
Artemis - I had forgotten about actresses having their back molars removed.
You're right, that was common, to give actresses that high cheekboned look. I
just was kind of shocked at the idea of having your entire jaw broken and
realigned as Fane Fonda was talking about in that interview. Surely, such severe
reconstructive surgery would take a long time to recover from? Anybody here ever
had a broken jaw? Wouldn't it be many months of recovery? Sounds horrible,
doesn't it!
PS About the casting couch and prostituting out young models and actresses -
this was why I gave up on show business. I could post a lot of stuff about this
but it might not be appropriate in this thread. Suffice it to say that I had a
TV show host, an assistant director on another TV show, and several "modelling
agents" pretty much present the classic deal with the devil. You get work on TV
or in films, but you work sporadically since jobs are not always available and
the competition for women in the industry is so bad. In between you earn a
living as a call girl/escort and you're often working for the same people who
are in a position to get you bigger and more consistent acting work, so you want
to stay on their good side. It's kind of a "pay to play" situation. You pay with
your sexuality and remain on call 24/7 for these creepy guys, and if you're
lucky, you might get some real acting work out of the deal. I kept ending up
right at the brink of getting serious TV roles and some movie parts and always
hit that wall where it was pretty much "do this or we just get the next girl to
do it." There's no incentive for the system NOT to do this because so many men
and women fall into it willingly.
I think this tends to happen more with unconnected people. I'm a nobody, no blue
blood connections or money or anything. So I had to actually go to acting
school, slave to get parts anywhere I could, and gradually try to approach
acting like a real career. I wasn't one of those connected types who could make
a phone call to my uncle fresh out of screenwriting school and instantly get a
job on network TV as a writer. That stuff happens all the time. There are
basically two tiers in show business. People who are legitimate in the sense
that they actually have talent and don't have connections - but they're willing
to prostitute themselves in some way (and if they change their minds, they
probably get replaced at some point if they're famous enough.) And then there
are those with connections who might have talent or might not, but they end up
making good money and steady money in the biz usually due to their insider
contacts.
