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Saturday, March 17, 2012

911 - WTC1 - firefighters testimonies



Albert Turi
Chief Albert Turi, Jr.

Chief Albert Turi, Jr.
– WTC survivor.  Currently serves as Chief of the Bureau of Training, FDNY.  On 9/11, served as Deputy Assistant Chief of Safety, FDNY.
  • Statement recorded by FDNY 12/10/01: Chief Turi arrived at the WTC just prior to and witnessed the second airplane impact.  He entered the North Tower lobby shortly after the second impact, where a temporary command post was located.

    "Q: Let me stop you there for a second, chief.   When you were in the lobby of 1 World Trade, can you describe the interior and the condition of the lobby?

    Chief Turi: Yes. I was surprised that all the glass was mostly out. I wasn't sure how it got out. I didn't think we took it out. I just assumed that it was the vibration of the aircraft hitting it. And I did notice some pieces of marble that looked like it was dislodged from the core area. ... [Editor's note: At this point, Chief Turi was in the lobby of the North Tower, approximately 1,100 feet below the airplane's impact point at floors 93 to 98.]

    And as my eyes traveled up the building, and I was looking at the south tower, somewhere about halfway up, my initial reaction was there was a secondary explosion, and the entire floor area, a ring right around the building blew out. I later realized that the building had started to collapse already and this was the air being compressed and that is the floor that let go. And as my eyes traveled further up the building, I realized that this building was collapsing ..." http://graphics8.nytimes.com


  • Statement of Firefighter Timothy Julian, conducted by Chief Turi, recorded by FDNY 12/10/01:

    Firefighter Julian: ... that's when I heard the building collapse.

    First I thought it was an explosion.  I thought maybe there was a bomb on the plane, but delayed type of thing, you know, secondary device.

    Chief Turi: I was convinced for a week it was secondary devices.

    Firefighter Julian: You know, and I just heard like an explosion and a then a cracking type of noise, and then it sounded like a freight train, rumbling and picking up speed, and I remember I looked up, and I saw it coming down ... " http://graphics8.nytimes.com


  • NBC report 9/11/01:

    NBC Anchor: NBC’s Pat Dawson is close to the scene of that attack. Pat?

    Pat Dawson: Just moments ago, I spoke to the Chief of Safety for the New York City Fire Department. The chief, Albert Turi, he received word of the possibility of a secondary device, that is, another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could. But he said that there was another explosion, which took place. And then an hour after the first hit here, the first crash that took place, he said there was another explosion that took place in one of the towers here. He thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building. The second device, he thinks, he speculates, was probably planted in the building." video segment at 39:05 of the 89 minute version of Loose Change, 2nd Edition.
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Dennis Tardio
Captain Dennis Tardio


Patrick Zoda
Patrick Zoda

Captain Dennis Tardio
– WTC survivor.  Engine 7 FDNY Firefighter Patrick Zoda – WTC survivor.  Engine 7 FDNY
  • Documentary film, 9/11 by Jules and Gedeon Naudet recorded 9/11/01:

    Tardio: What do we do? We made it outside. We made it about a block.
    Zoda: We made it at least two blocks.
    Tardio: Two blocks.
    Zoda: And we started running
    Tardio: Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
    Zoda: Floor by floor, it started poppin’ out.
    Tardio: It was like, it was if, it was as if they had detonators.
    Zoda: Yeah, detonators.

    Tardio: You know, as if they were plannin' to take down a building.  Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

    Zoda: All the way down. I was watchin’ it and running.  And then you just saw this cloud of s**t chasing, chasing you down." video segment at 47:35 of the 89 minute version of Loose Change 2nd Edition.


  • Editor's note: Despite hundreds of eyewitness reports of explosions throughout the Twin Towers by doomed victims, survivors, emergency service personnel, reporters, and bystanders, the 9/11 Commission Report contains virtually no mention of them and entirely ignores them in its conclusions.  Graeme MacQueen's analysis of oral histories of 9/11 taken from 503 FDNY survivors reveals more than 100 FDNY personnel reported explosions in the Twin Towers.


Bill Walsh
Capt. William Walsh

Capt. William Walsh
– WTC survivor.  Currently, Captain, FDNY.  On 9/11, was Lieutenant with Ladder Company 1.
  • Documentary film, 9/11 by Jules and Gedeon Naudet.  Segment reproduced on September 11 Revisited at 6:40: His impressions on entering the lobby of WTC 1 (North Tower) approximately 3 minutes after the first plane had hit it and before the second plane hit WTC 2 (South Tower). "The lobby is about six stories high and the lobby looked as though a bomb had exploded there.  All the glass was taken out.  There were 10 foot by 10 foot marble panels, that were once walls, loose from the walls of the Trade Center.  Lights were hanging down.  The lights were, I believe, off.  Unfortunately there were dozens of people in the lobby.  They were in a contorted position.  They were black in color; moaning; just writhing around.  [Editor's note: At this point, Lt. Walsh was in the lobby of the North Tower, approximately 1,100 feet below the airplane's impact point at floors 93 to 98.] http://www.911revisited.com


  • Statement recorded by FDNY.  Interviewed by Battalion Chief Frank Congiusta 1/11/02:

    Lt. William Walsh:  We were just watching this airplane on target for the World Trade Center.  All of sudden, boom, he disappears into the Trade Center. ...

    So immediately everybody got into the rig.  We automatically responded down to the World Trade Center. ... I imagine we got down there in less than two minutes. ...

    So we had parked the apparatus right in front of the glass overhang on West Street which is the main entrance to World Trade Center Number One [North Tower].  We all gathered our tools, and we headed to through the front door. ...

    What I observed as I was going through these doors and I got into the lobby of the World Trade Center was that the lobby of the Trade Center didn't appear as though it had any lights.

    All of the glass on the first floor that abuts West Street was blown out.  The glass in the revolving doors was blown out.  All of the glass in the lobby was blown out.  [Editor's note: At this point, Lt. Walsh was in the lobby of the North Tower, approximately 1,100 feet below the airplane's impact point at floors 93 to 98.]

    The wall panels on the wall are made of marble.  It’s about two or three inches thick.  They’re about ten feet high by ten feet wide.  A lot of those were hanging off the wall. ...

    What else I observed in the lobby was that -- there’s basically two areas of elevators.  There’s elevators off to the left hand side which are really the express elevators.  That would be the elevators that’s facing north.  Then on the right-hand side there’s also elevators that are express elevators, and that would be facing south.  In the center of these two elevator shafts would be elevators that go to the lower floors.  They were blown off the hinges.  That’s where the service elevator was also.

    Chief Frank Congiusta:  Were these elevators that went to the upper floors?  They weren't side lobby elevators?

    Lt. William Walsh:  No, no, I’d say that they went through floors 30 and below.

    Chief Frank Congiusta:  And they were blown off?

    Lt. William Walsh:  They were blown off the hinges, and you could see the shafts.  The elevators on the extreme north side and the other express elevator on the extreme south side, they looked intact to me from what could see, the doors anyway. http://graphics8.nytimes.com


  • Editor's note: Despite hundreds of eyewitness reports of explosions throughout the Twin Towers by doomed victims, survivors, emergency service personnel, reporters, and bystanders, the 9/11 Commission Report contains virtually no mention of them and entirely ignores them in its conclusions.  Graeme MacQueen's analysis of oral histories of 9/11 taken from 503 FDNY survivors reveals more than 100 FDNY personnel reported explosions in the Twin Towers.


Lou Cacchioli
Firefighter Lou Cacchioli

Firefighter Lou Cacchioli
– Witness before the 9/11 Commission.  WTC survivor.  Retired 20-year veteran of FDNY, Company 47, Harlem.  Injuries on 9/11 and toxic dust inhalation forced retirement.
  • Article Arctic Beacon 7/19/05: "When he finally entered the North Tower lobby, Cacchioli recalls elevator doors completely blown out and another scene of mass chaos with people running, screaming and being hit with debris.

    "I remember thinking to myself, my God, how could this be happening so quickly if a plane hit way above. It didn't make sense," said Cacchioli. ... [Editor's note: At this point, Mr. Cacchioli was in the lobby of the North Tower, approximately 1,100 feet below the airplane's point of impact at floors 93 to 98.]

    As he made his way up along with men from Engine Co. 21, 22 and Ladder Co. 13, the doors opened on the 24th floor, a scene again that hardly made sense to the seasoned fireman, claiming the heavy dust and haze of smoke he encountered was unusual considering the location of the strike.

    "Tommy Hetzel was with me and everybody else also gets out of the elevator when it stops on the 24th floor," said Cacchioli, "There was a huge amount of smoke. Tommy and I had to go back down the elevator for tools and no sooner did the elevators close behind us, we heard this huge explosion that sounded like a bomb. It was such a loud noise, it knocked off the lights and stalled the elevator. ...

    "I somehow got into the stairwell and there were more people there. When I began to try and direct down, another huge explosion like the first one hits. This one hits about two minutes later, although it's hard to tell, but I'm thinking, 'Oh. My God, these bastards put bombs in here like they did in 1993!'

    When Cacchioli entered the 23rd floor, he found a "little man" holding a handkerchief in front of his face and hiding under the standpipes on the wall, used for pumping water on the floor in case of fire.

    Leading the man by the arm, he then ran into a group down the hall of about 35 to 40 people, finding his way down the 23rd floor stairwell and beginning their descent to safety.

    "Then as soon as we get in the stairwell, I hear another huge explosion like the other two. Then I heard bang, bang, bang - huge bangs - and surmised later it was the floors pan caking on top of one another. ... [Editor's note: At this point, Mr. Cacchioli was in the stairwell of the 23rd floor of the North Tower, approximately 850 feet below the airplane's point of impact at floors 93 to 98 and approximately 300 feet above ground level.  The entire collapse of the North Tower occurred in only 11 seconds.  It's unlikely the sounds referred to here by Mr. Cacchioli were floors pancaking since it took him several additional minutes to exit the building.]

    When the group led by Cacchioli finally made it to the lobby level, he was unable to open the door at first, the concussion of the explosions or perhaps the south tower falling, jamming the lobby door.

    Finally jarring it loose, the group entered the lobby finding total devastation with windows blown out and marble falling from the walls, but strangely no people. ...

    Cacchioli was called to testify privately [before the 9/11 Commission] ... "My story was never mentioned in the final [9/11 Commission] report and I felt like I was being put on trial in a court room," said Cacchioli. "I finally walked out. They were trying to twist my words and make the story fit only what they wanted to hear. All I wanted to do was tell the truth and when they wouldn't let me do that, I walked out.

    It was a disgrace to everyone, the victims and the family members who lost loved ones. I don't agree with the 9/11 Commission. The whole experience was terrible." http://www.arcticbeacon.com

  • Editor's note: Despite hundreds of eyewitness reports of explosions throughout the Twin Towers by doomed victims, survivors, emergency service personnel, reporters, and bystanders, the 9/11 Commission Report contains virtually no mention of them and entirely ignores them in its conclusions.  Graeme MacQueen's analysis of oral histories of 9/11 taken from 503 FDNY survivors reveals more than 100 FDNY personnel reported explosions in the Twin Towers.


John Schroeder
Firefighter John Schroeder

Firefighter John Schroeder
– WTC survivor.  Engine 10, FDNY. 12-year veteran on 9/11.
  • Video interview by the Loose Change crew and Luke Rudkowski and Manny Badillo of We Are Change 8/7/07:  [Elapsed time into the 47-minute video is indicated in brackets.]
    John Schroeder:  I became a firefighter in 1990, March, 1990.  My whole family was firefighters, goes back a long way. ...

    ... the Engine 10 house, which is directly across the street from World Trade 2; that firehouse was actually put into play just for the Towers. ... So, about '98, I transferred over to the 10 house.  OK, it was all good.  Great guys.  We must have been in the Trade Center a thousand times, at least. ...
    September 11, I went to work about 8:00. ...

    [at 3:50]  Beautiful day, I'm looking up.  All of a sudden we hear [makes roaring sound]  What the hell is ...?  In seconds we see the wing of the plane crash through the building. ...  

    [at 5:40]  We got into the lobby, went to the Command Post. ... We got our orders from the Command Post to team up with Engine 5 and start our way up.  So we're standing there in the lobby.  We're getting all together.  All of sudden we hear [makes explosion sound].  I look down to my right and the elevators exploded something out of like a Bruce Willis Die Hard movie.  People just come running out of the elevators on fire.  Fireball.  I mean it was like "What is going on here?  Something's up here."  I mean, the plane's up there and now there's fire down here?  People running around all on fire.  This is crazy. ... [Editor's note: At this point, Mr. Schroeder was in the lobby of the North Tower, approximately 1,100 feet below the airplane's point of impact at floors 93 to 98.]
    So we were going up the stairs. ...

    [at 8:30]  We were heading up to the 24th floor, the stairwell.  And all of a sudden we heard, "Mayday, Mayday, Second plane. Second plane."  We're looking at each other like, "Come on, second plane?  There's no way there's a second plane."  Within seconds our building got rocked.  We got bounced around in the stairwell like pinballs, man.  And we just said, "You know what, time to go." 

    We got out as much people as we could.  Most of the people were out.  We were the last guys going up the stairs.  We got down -- We started taking off -- About 12 of us -- We got down to the 3rd floor and that's where the stairwell collapsed on us.  And we had to dig our way out.  Now the building's coming down.  We can't see nothing. ...

    [at 9:30]  We got our way out of the 3rd stairwell and that's where the maintenance fellow with a little flashlight saved our lives.  He was pointing over.  If it wasn't for him we never would have found another stairwell.  The building would have collapsed. ... Willie Rodriguez.  Thank you, Willie.  He saved our lives.  Saved about 12 guys lives that day. ...

    We got down to the lobby.  And everything was blown out, exploded.  We were the only ones in the lobby, now.  We're going, "Wait a second here.  Where is everybody?" ...  
    [at 17:00] Question:  How confusing was it for you to know that a plane just hit so many stories up, but yet you saw all this devastation going up?

    John Schroeder:  We couldn't believe it.  We were scratching our head; thinking, "What's going on?  Bodies dropping?  Elevators exploding?"

    [at 18:28] Question:  When you were in that building, how long after that first plane hit did those elevators blow out, would you say?

    John Schroeder:  We were in there for maybe five minutes.  Five minutes and the elevators exploded on us.  Yeah.  We said, "Something's wrong here."  I mean, the plane hit up on the 80th floor.  I mean, in five minutes all of a sudden now the elevators are exploding on the first level, the lobby?  Come on here.

    Question:  A lot of people try to brush that off.  "Well, you know, when the plane hit, you know, nine thousand gallons of jet fuel rushed down the elevator shafts."  But you're saying that there was a distinct time delay between the plane striking and --

    John Schroeder:  Oh, absolutely was.  There was a distinct time delay between the planes hitting and the elevators exploding.  So, it wasn't --
    Question:  And what was your feeling about the lobby being so destroyed, as you said?

    John Schroeder:  We were saying that how is this happening when it was 80 stories up there.  You know like -- We were just --  You know, you think about it.  You say, "Something else had to go on here.  Something else was going on here!"  This just don't happen like this; if when a plane hits the 80th floor of a building and the lobby gets blown out.  Sorry!  I don't care who you are.  I don't care what you say.

    [at 23:25]  I'm here to say my piece.  It's been six years.  Six years, since holding this back. And you know what; it's time.  You know what; let them do whatever they want to do.  Go ahead.  Somebody should really know what went on that day.  We gotta bring this out; tell the world.  All these people are in the dark.  They gotta really open their eyes here.  Their eyes have been shut too long. ...

    [at 24:50]  It was funny 'cause Tower 1 was coming down from the interior on us.  You know, so, a lot of people don't know that.  A lot of people -- you know it just didn't like -- it just didn't [ makes sound like puuff].  It was coming down.  It was coming from the interior.  It trapped us on the 3rd floor.  And we were like, "This thing is definitely coming down, man."   Because the inside structure was just disintegrated. We're like, "How is this happening when the plane was up 50 more stories and the stairwell's collapsing on us?"  Something wasn't right, man.  Something wasn't right in Denmark that day.

    [at 30:00] For every window in the lobby to be exploded.  I mean them windows were like as thick as spaghetti.  There were two, three inch glass.  You know, come on.  They exploded out of the lobby.  It wasn't from the jet fuel.  No way!  The elevators exploded.  They were down from the lobby.  The lobby was over here.  That should never have happened, something what happened there.  We came down -- It looked liked a bomb went off in the lobby.  There was no fire.  It just looked like a bomb went off.  http://loosechange911.blogspot.com

  • Editor's note: Despite hundreds of eyewitness reports of explosions throughout the Twin Towers by doomed victims, survivors, emergency service personnel, reporters, and bystanders, the 9/11 Commission Report contains virtually no mention of them and entirely ignores them in its conclusions.  Graeme MacQueen's analysis of oral histories of 9/11 taken from 503 FDNY survivors reveals more than 100 FDNY personnel reported explosions in the Twin Towers.

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